But I do love Him and we don’t have people sing songs that really at the end of the day are about themselves.”. Are There Fascist Philosophies Behind Hillsong? “In time to come we will all find out.” “They are your brothers and sisters but they are certainly not mine.” I meant what was worship like 100 years ago, not music. So for a time, I went back to listening only to, I repent of ever having recorded one single song, and ever having performed one concert, if my music, and more importantly, my life has not provoked you into Godly jealousy or to sell out more completely to Jesus! A lot of these songs are composed to produce emotional highs- to glorify the flesh and not God. Because he has shown me, a sinner, grace. Worship ; UNITED ; Young & Free ; Kids ; Tours ; Lyrics ; Music. They lead the church in worship unto God, theirs is an important role! Mar is spouting these ideas from Hillsong, a cult that demands that churches follow them into flagrant idolatry, sin and apostasy – in the name of Jesus. Thank you. Music is an effective way to infiltrate the church with a false Gospel and doctrines of demons. It’s fine to like a band’s/artist’s music but it’s another matter entirely to idolize them- asking for signatures, pictures, posters, and yell really loud when they come on stage. Clearly Hillsong is to be envied and we are simply jealous. Contrast worship one hundred years ago to Hillsong music. I don’t think so. Churchwatcher The church I’ve been attending for the last 4-5 years in the Lehigh Valley of Pennsylvania (Allentown/Bethlehem) joined the HS network without informing the congregation. This is because the outcome of Hillsong worship if for people to have an encounter with a god within their faith space or ‘atmosphere of worship’. There are a lot of great songs that talk about being in love, we try to avoid songs that make ‘me’ the subject of the song: “Hold me close let your love surround me, lead me, draw me to your side, when I, I’ll rise up on the wings of eagles and I’ll soar with you, your spirit leads me on”. We worship Him in spirit and in truth, with a little bit of fear and trembling, even though we’re in a right relationship with Him. So do you think the Lord receives this music? God isn’t the God of second chances. The Parable of the Weeds, Matthew 13:24-30 “He put another parable before them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat and went away. ‘I am saddened by much of this discussion.’. Who I worship- I worship Yeshua, Why do I worship Him? ??? We are responsible for leading people into the presence of Jesus… to do this, we need to know how to enter His presence and be very comfortable there… I can’t get past Exodus 33:14 where Moses’ authentic cry to God was that He would lead him! Remove the seeker sensitive preaching, the rock music….and watch the crowds leave in droves. People don’t say ‘Oh what an incredible pen, where can I get a pen like that so I can write great stories?’ Well, I am just a pen in the hands of the Lord. That is a fact Chucky, so let us not be too quick to judge. Hillsong United. Sorry, churchwatcher. I’ve noticed that most modern songs mainly appeal to the flesh. God is a creative God, and since we are made in His image, we are also creative beings. (They may as well be channeling the spirit of Python.) If I’m honest, I was mainly moved by the music rather than the lyrics. These definitely aren’t the only things that should matter to us as worship pastors, but they’re a great place to start! ‘I am grateful that they are who they are’. Just participating in worship or even being in a church does not automatically mean one is saved. room to improve!”, I’ve often made the same mistake more than twice. This has not been an easy post to write because it’s controversial but I felt the strong urge to say it all anyway. How sad that you have so many Bible verses to quote, but no knowledge at all of the One who inspired them (in truth, you are no different to a JW or a mormon in that respect). We are the instruments of praise, not some mechanical instrument created by man, but created by God. There is CLC Monavale and CLC Kyogle. A valuable BTWN resource addressing dangers in evangelicalism. And there you have it folks – the downplay fallacy. This is how we should approach every day. I love the lyrics to Hillsong, and to be honest, it brings me closer to God then I ever really have been. I could not find its origins or definition. Hillsong don’t do this. I realized that not just because an artist claims to be Christian or because a song mentions a biblical story that it is Christian or acceptable unto the Lord. you know nothing about my church yet you pass judgement on it. Before I proceed, I would like to clarify that this is NOT an attack on CCM nor anyone who listens to it. I love Keith Green’s music, though he’s been gone for over 30 years, his humble heart for the Lord can still be felt through his beautiful, poured out worship. This is a lie, and therefore fundamentally destructive to any person at a deep level.Teaching people that they are basically good works against the gospel. Listen to the way you argue. Others simply don’t like the mere existence of Hillsong. worship songs have the power, to speak into peoples lives, and stir up their feelings and emotions. This remained my criteria for many years until a couple of years ago something happened that dramatically changed my view about Christian music. But I’m sad you feel that way about “Oceans”, as the first time I heard it, I thought “that was the way I felt when I had to journey with…..(a family member who had cancer). The word romance used in this song is rendered in that respectful context. chucky jones said: April 30, 2016 at 8:41 am “I sense envy on this site though.” and I sense stupidity in your brain. Ecumenism has infiltrated every facet of Christianity I’m afraid, and music didn’t escape. making clear who is the pharisee (you). In time to come we will all find out. From what we know, Hillsong probably would have stayed CLC if it wasn’t for the fact the founder of CLC (Brian Houston’s father) was exposed as a pedophile. For your reference: https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/all-women-bible/Bride-Lamb-8217-s-Wife, “I just thought I’d test you with this one.”, another display of your arrogance. (I encourage you to do your own research regarding the theology of these churches and their bands) Granted, no one band or artist is perfect but I believe most of these modern Christian bands have allowed the world to seep into their ministries. Ever since then you have assumed that Hillsong will pull every reference related to every story you publish, assuming every story will be as big as the Islam story. Are you such a child of Satan that you deliberately shun truth and malign people who speak plainly to you? 5:19 says that we are to communicate God’s truth by sing and making melody with our hearts. My greatest goal and desire is to preserve the Word of God through thought-provoking, convicting, and life application blog posts. Like rock concerts they draw crowds. In revelation is says much about the saints against saints, this is exactly what we are sering today.. the bigger issue is who is causing that? In any case, there is no point at all in addressing “sensible remarks” to drooling dupes such as yourself – as it is written “Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.”, Now why don’t you just toddle off and do something useful, like washing Brian’s feet or buying some more of his books (after all, he does need more money, doesn’t he?). This is why we we still have CLC’s floating around the country of Australia. Did JD inadvertently give us too much information on how Brian Houston ‘controls’ the worship arm of Hillsong? It was lirerally stolen without a shot been fired. If I’m honest, I was mainly moved by the music rather than the lyrics. Churchwatcher Back in the day, Frank Houston led many hippy communes to the Lord and also was very effective in Sydney Maori communities. Also the word song is in there, and we see a somewhat dishonest switch and bait (equivocation) tactic used every-time, between the words song and music as if the two are one and the same, they are not. But that simply makes their music more dangerous consdering they also promote Liberal ideas, Purpose Driven heresy, Latter Rain heresy, Health & Wealth heresy in their lyrics. But I believe most Christians have the conviction that music that is supposed to glorify God should not borrow concepts from secular music. I agree with your article and have many times wished that I could communicate these same thoughts as clearly. The last thing we want is to follow a music minister (musician)who has no idea what he/she believes! Some Hillsongs passed, but only if certain verses were left out because they weren’t scriptural! Heb. It is so important that as amazing as our creative ideas might be, if they don’t ultimately line up with what our senior pastor and leaders want, then we happily put them aside. I’d be lying if I said that the 90s didn’t produce some pretty catchy tunes. Why have the churches let in those who are not saved to come into power and influence others? ‘I have grown in my walk with Jesus through their songs and teaching.’. And that what we listen to/sing is important as it is so influential on our beliefs and feelings. I think that both are passive ways of dealing with the issue. It seems that you are ever learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. I listen to his music often. People do not want to be brought into such confinement. I grew up in the seventies and have enjoyed my fair share of CCM via concerts, albums, & radio. So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared also. “I meant what was worship like 100 years ago, not music.”, Consider songs like ‘Amazing Grace’, ‘How Great Thou Art’, ‘And Can It Be’, ‘Before the Throne of God Above’ (aka ‘The Advocate’), ‘My Hope Is Built On Nothing Less’…. Not long after they published this article, someone mentioned part of its content on our site and we started analysing it. There are many Christian artists (search Phil Whickam, Matt Maher, One Thing conference, Jesus Adrain Romero, Alex Campos, Marcos Witt, to name a few) who have now sided with the Catholic Church and produce music to “bridge the gap” between Protestants and Catholics. I think more than a few guests have slipped into Hillsong services drawn by this music, thinking because they are standing there getting caught up in the emotions with everyone else, they must be Christians too. Be careful to ride them all off. Blessings! Our relationship with Jesus isn’t ‘romantic’. Through sheer God-given observation, I was able to discern that something had changed so I went on a search…found this site and found that HS had such a “network”. “And please quit the name-calling…mature Christians don’t do that.”. And of course, the basics in my role as one of our team’s worship pastors. and sensible. Were they in error? By the end of the song, all I received from it was a warm-tingly feeling. Others report to us what is happening at Hillsong. BTW, using your logic, it’s okay to go to any supposed ‘Christian’ church anywhere indescriminantly regardless of what they say / teach and what scandals they are engaged in. It’s a pity, but it’s just the way things are – the lake of fire will be full of people just like you: those who have trusted in mere men, rather than in the one true God, who alone is able to save. Now we’ve discovered the article was pulled two days later after publication. And we don’t want that do we? are you david coming back for another round of flogging? It’s a total HS rip. There are several things I noticed wrong with today’s Christian music. Psalm 40 says “he put a new song in my mouth”, and Psalm 96 says to “sing to the LORD a new song”. mature Christians dont go around defending fake ministries like you are. church watcher beat me to it. It’s not bashing if it’s true. Thank you for sharing this. There is no such thing like false salvations. You used a comment by a visitor to the site about Brian Houston and Islam to publish a story that then did become a big story in the media, and consequently Hillsong pulled the video.

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